
The gibson les paul deluxe electric guitar was originally released in 1969 , it was a renamed guitar and originated from the gibson les paul standard ( goldtop model ) . The main feature of the gibson les paul deluxe was its mini humbuckers .
The humbuckers produced a nice tite crunch and the result pleased many guitar players including pete townshend who used them in several concerts . The guitar appeared on the gibson price list in 1969 for $425 and was fairly succesful .
In 1969 the gibson lp deluxe featured 2 mini humbuckers ,maple top , mahogany body , a goldttop finish , pantograpgh logo and a 3 piece neck . During the mid seventies regular sized humbuckers were optional and few were also produced with p-90 pickups.
From 1970 to 1985 features basically stayed the same accept for minor detail changes and were produced in various beautiful colors such as cherry red sunburst , red wine , goldtop , blue sparkle in 1974,76 and 77 , red sparkle in 1975 . ( custom sparkle colors are worth more and are highly in demand by collectors ) . Discontinued in 1985In 1978 gibson also introduced the gibson les paul pro-deluxe which featured 2 p-90 pickups , chrome hardware and were made in various colors .
In 1991 and on gibson made several other models of the deluxe such as the les paul deluxe hall of fame , and the deluxe 30th anniversary....
Vintage Guitar Price Value For 2009 :
1969 > $4700 to $5500 ( Goldtop )
1970 > $4000 to $5000 ( Goldtop )
1971 - 1975 > $3500 to $4300 ( Goldtop )
1971 - 1975 > $2500 to $3000 ( various colors )
1976 - 1985 > $2000 to $2700 ( various colors )
1978 - 1982 > $1500 to $2100 ( pro-deluxe with 2 p-90 pickups )
1969 - Avg Upward Trend Of 15% a Year since 20001970 - 1985 Avg Upward Trend Of 11% a Year since 2000
( in 1975 and 1977 red and blue sparkle finishes are estimated at $3900 to $4500 , they made them only in those years and are very rare , hard to find . )
Buying Advice For Used & Vintage Gibson les paul deluxe Guitars
If you want to buy a deluxe , on several occasions you can find used or vintage gibson les paul deluxe for sale on ebay ... However, before you bid or buy I suggest you read the descriptions carefully...
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8 digit numbers were printed in back of the peghead on all models including the les paul deluxe from 1977 to present , 1st and 5th digits should tell you the year for example : 70098587 would be a 1978.
Numbers on decal were from 1975 to 1977 . So its probably not a fake according to the info you provided.
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the 1st and 5th digits only apply to serial numbers in back of the peghead from 1977 to present.
from 1975 to 77 gibson used 8 digit #s on the decal which you can tell the year by the first 2 prefix numbers
if the first 2 serial numbers on the decal of your les paul deluxe starts with a :
99 its a 1975
00 its a 1976
06 its a 1977
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That's valuable information, THANKS!
I viewed a lot of pictures of '76 Gibson guitars today and now it becomes clear:
Seems that just the first line with the 'LES PAUL-DELUXE' is missing, second line then is 'MADE IN U.S.A.' and third line is 00120409.
Ever seen before that the first line of the decal was missing?
Cheers
Joe
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My gibson les paul deluxe is a 1970-72 model, cherry sunburst, with a serial number which is hard to read on the back of the neck. Underneath the serial number is 'made in usa' it looks like its inked in. It has a deluxe truss rod cover and gibson is inlaid in the headstock but it does not say 'les paul model'. The guy I bought it off said that it had been refinished. Are there deluxes that dont say les paul on the headstock? Any help appreciated.
John
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I know that during the 70s gibson offered regular humbuckers ( optional ) instead of mini humbuckers ,
but i never heard of factory made les paul deluxe guitars with the pickup configuration you gave me .
This does not mean that these guitars didnt exist, theres no mention of these guitars in the books that i have read...
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Because of the optional pickups on the les paul deluxe guitars during those years ,
many guitar players modified these guitars ,
Lots of gibson soapbar p90 pickups were replaced with dimarzio humbuckers.
Im sure it sounds great , but if you want to know if its an original factory made model ,
Your best bet is to call gibson direct ,they have a toll free number on their web site .
If they are not sure ,or they cannot provide you with a concrete answer themselves ,
strong chances are that the guitar pickups were replaced or modified.
From my experience ive never seen a deluxe "factory made guitar" with those pick up specifications.
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I bought my gibson lespaul deluxe goldtop from a guy 30 years ago. I think it's a 1969 model but I'm not sure because I never found the serial number 905648 in the serial number lists I've looked in. The serial number is impressed in the wood and there's no MADE IN USA printing. Why I can't find it? Am I right about the model year?
Thanks,
Daniel
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many les paul deluxe guitars from 1961 to 1970 had no made in the usa in back of the headstock ,
all 6 digit serial # in the 900000's were manufactured between 1968 to 1972.
however you can find out the exact year by the parts and features of your guitar .
for example : a volute was added to the back of the neck behind the nut in 1970 .
1960's, Gibson used Kluson tuners. In 1969, Gibson starting using tuners with the name "Gibson Deluxe" on them .
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thats weird because all serial numbers on solidbody guitars from 174223 to 176643 were manufactured in 1964 or 1965
but they didnt make any gibson deluxe guitars in 1964-65
is there a "made in the usa" stamped in the back of the peghead ?
When did you buy it ? whats the history ? some more details would be nice .
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It was bought around '75 from a reputable guitar shop in Adelaide South Aust , no reason to not believe its the genuine thing but it has been suggested that it was a very early one and the goof strips are there to hide the fact that it was routed for normal humbuckers , . I forgot to add that it has "Made in USA on the back"
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Hi,
I own a 1969 Gold Top Deluxe, serial #845715. It has a one piece body, three piece neck and mini humbuckers. The pots are dated 69'. I'm wondering if this guitar might have actually been equipped with P-90's because the paint has been chipped away around the pickup routes. Should this guitar have come with booboo rings to cover up the chips? There are no signs of the rings ever being there (no nail holes). Just wondering if it started out as a 68' Standard reissue and fininshed as a 69' Deluxe. Would this have been something Gibson did back then to get a new model started? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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The serial number states that it was made in 1969 which was the final generation of the les paul standard , in mid 1969 the les paul standard became the les paul deluxe .
so its possible that you have a guitar that was made during the transition period wheras gibson could have used excess parts from their les standard guitars ( very common during those years ) .
Early 69 deluxe guitars had "made in USA" Beneath the serial number and a "volute" on the back of the neck in the nut area and 3 piece pancake bodies .
Later 69 deluxe models had 4 piece pancake bodies and pantograph logos .
Yes , there are many 69 deluxe guitars that had p-90 pickups , chances are that your guitar was equipped with p-90s .
I also want to mention that in 1968 there was no made in the usa below the serial number .
Would of helped more if i could of seen a picture of your guitar .... domenic
How does it Sound ?
Are you selling it ?
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HI
I recently accepted as partial payment for a '74 precision bass what at the time seemed to me as a strange Les Paul (I had never seen a sunburst tone like that). Later I was told it's a Les Paul Deluxe, but cannot determine the date because it was refinished and I suppose the serial nr (as well the made in USA) was somehow "deleted" in the process.
I've sent it to a very good Luthier for a refret and he doesn't think the refinish had anything to do with the disappearance of the serial Nr and "MAde in USa".
I would appreciate any help in determinig this Lp's date of manufacture. What I know is the following:
- It has a 3 piece neck
- It has "Les Paul Model" on the front of the headstock
- It has standard humbuckers (Dimarzio) but the cavity was (roughly) rerouted for their size. There is a sticker on the back of each pickups - One says "LP Deluxe Hals Pickup", and the other "LP Bridge pickup"
- It has a volute on the back of the nut
- The tuners were Kluson-style but not original. No visible brand whatsoever.
- The Pot knobs it came with recall some amplifier knobs (like fender), sort of a tall hat (like witches use :)). I think I may have seen similar knobs in an old SG.
- I saw one of the Pots and it reads 137722 / 70-034
I tried Gibson support an they answered the following: "Based on those pictures, it appears that this model has been modified in a few ways, and it’s hard to tell from pictures, but it also appears to have been refinished. However, it should have a serial number. There was a time in the 1970s (from 1975-77) in which some serial numbers were on a decal on the headstock. If this model were refinished, the serial number could have been taken off during this process. Because there is no serial number and the guitar has been modified, it’s too difficult to put a date on the guitar."
Well, any suggestions are welcome... If there is anyone who would like to see some photos of it, please mail me to fernandoguerraepaz@gmail.com and I'll be glad to send them the ones I have.
Thank you very much
Fernando Paz - Portugal
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hi fernando ,
the guitar is very difficult to date , it is totatlly refinished and most parts have been changed ,
my opinion, the guitar dates early 70s because of the knobs ( if original ) , your guitar has amp knobs which were only used by gibson from 1966 to mid seventies .
and volute necks were only added in 1970 .
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Hi
The pot code 137722 indicates it was made by CTS (137), on the 22nd week of some year ending in "7".. but the pots may not be original. In fact, the luthier I sent it to mentioned that they probably weren't.
More: I was told at the Guitarscanada forum by one of the members that 6-digit pot codes were used until 1960, after which they were replaced by 7 digit codes. So the "7" on my guitar's pot code would mean the pot had been manufactured in 47 or 57, while the guitar is a 70's guitar if not more recent.
As to the knobs, I found out they are Les Paul Custom knobs, thus not original to this guitar...
I'll ask the luthier to check out the body construction (pancake or not - apparently Gibson restarted making deluxes with one piece bodies in 1977) and what type of wood was used for the neck (it seems maple necks were only introduced in 1975). When the guitar returns home I'll try to take some pictures of the cavities too.
Thank you very much!
Fernando
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Ok, so finally the quest ends!
I asked the luthier I sent it to to take a close look and find out if the body is pancake or not, as well as the wood used on the neck.
He said that the neck is made of 3 piece maple and the body is "pancake".
If maple necks were introduced in 1975 and the pancake body was dropped in 1977, the guitar must have been manufactured during this period. That also explains the fact that it has no Serial Nr (decal)...
Thank you all for your help!
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are you sure thats the serial number ? i don't recall gibson ever making serial numbers with 7 digits ....
below are the serial numbers for early 70's les paul deluxe models : some 74-75 models had a letter before the 6 digits
000000's 1973
100000's 1970-1973
200000's 1973-1975
300000's 1974-1975
400000's 1974-1975
500000's 1974-1975
600000's 1970-1972
700000's 1970-1972
800000's 1973-1975
900000's 1970-1972
Posted By : shawn
Posted By : shawn
Hi I forgot to add on the above post that my guitar is an electric solid body, all black, the gold tuner boxes say 'gibson deluxe' (but the tuners are plastic) and it has a gold 'can' pickup near the neck in addition to a diagonal humbucker near the bridge, the bridge is gold, the plate where the cable connects is gold, . Not only that but it only has 2 knobs, not 4. According to another earlier post, going by the serial # on the peghead, it looks like this was made in '96, (my S/N is 90256577). So is my guitar a Les Paul deluxe, or just a gibson deluxe, or what is this beast??? Thanks alot for any input... shawn
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i don't think its any of the two you mentioned , gibson les paul deluxe guitars were discontinued in 1985 .
the company reissued the les paul deluxe in 1999 ( 30th anniversary ), plus i never heard or seen a deluxe with a diagonal humbucker near the bridge ..... im not sure but i think your guitar is a gibson epiphone model .. i would have to see it ...
Posted By : shawn
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Hi,
I have a Goldtop that was sold to me back in the early 80's as a 68. The serial number is 914996, no Made in the USA, no volute, Gibson logo is missing the "i", neck is one piece and the body is a 3 layer pancake with the top being the thin piece. It is a Deluxe, the P90's were removed and humbucker were put in before i bought it. Trying to figure out if this was in fact a 68 since the parts don't add up ( neck 69, body late 69 or early 70, serial number 68).
Thanks
Gabriel
Posted By : shawn
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hi shawn saw the pics , its definitely not a deluxe , theres supposed to be the name "deluxe" on the truss rod cover and "les paul" on the peghead under the gibson logo , its a total different guitar .
If the music store told you that it was a gibson deluxe , bring it back because its not ... its not made in china , but i can tell by the pictures that the guitar was tampered with ,,, also depends how much you paid for it ...
Posted By : shawn
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Hey Shawn,
I have a Gibson LP Delux with sn#752878. My father gave it to me over 25 years ago. From reading the posts, I am guessing it is a 70'-72' model. The top of the guitar has a clear finish. Someone must have refinished it. The original tuning pegs have been changed out to Grover pegs. Assuming the guitar is in good condition, can you estimate the value of this guitar having been altered a bit. Everything else is original.
Thanks...Brian
Posted By : Sherry
Hi,
I'm new to all of this, But I really need some advice.
I've just purchased an Epiphone Les Paul with the serial number 167212 it is a label no made in the usa on the guitar at all. But there is a label that says limited edition on the back also.
It is a blue sparkle color. I have checked everywhere, but have had no luck finding an epiphone that is the same. I have seen on ebay another blue sparkle epiphone les paul but it is not the same at all. Mine looks exactly like a gibson blue sparkle top that I'd seen on another site. http://www.davesguitar.com/collection.html
I know the guitar is old, as I bought it from a friend of mine who's grandmother owned it, but no one remembers when she bought it,, it has just been stored for quite some years.
If anyone has any info please let me know.
Thanks,
Sherry
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hi brian ,
.... i took a look at your guitar and to my surprise its actually a beautiful guitar ,
Are you sure its been refinished ? because gibson made deluxe guitars in natural finishes from 1971 to 1975 ... your serial # indicates thats it was made in 1972 ... from the pictures you gave me the pegs were replaced ... i cant really tell 100% from the pics , but i don't think your guitar has been refinished and if it is , let me tell you the guy who worked on it did a hell of a good job ...
these les paul deluxe guitars are valued at $1800 to $2000 ( mint all original ) , you can easily sell yours for $1500 to $1800 ...
they are not worth as much as the deluxe goldtops but they are still quite valuable ..... domenic .
Posted By : André
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I have what was called a 1975 LP standard; I bought it in 1992:
It is a dark tobacco sunburst, very heavy mahogany, Serial number 688796 stamped in back , below is Made in USA stamped, then the volute. looks like a 3 piece neck but hard to tell since the wood all blends in. has 2 double coil black humbuckers (Dimarzio?)(no evidence of routing), pearl trapezoid inlays, rosewood fboard, look like gold LP Custom knobs. The body has a very thin single "stripe" /sandwich layer separating the mahogany body from the top. It has the classic Gibson name, the Les Paul signature but the truss rod cover is un labelled;
Always thought it was a standard but maybe some transition guitar.
help confirming vintage and identity please!
iain
Posted By : Don
Hi, I have a Les Paul Deluxe, Goldtop, that I purchased new sometime in 73 or 74. The serial number is 173027, stamped and says "made in USA" and it has a pancake body. In the serial number info that I can find on the internet, this series of numbers where used from 1970 - 1975. Since it was purchased in 73 or 74, that eliminates 75. I wrote Gibson an e-mail explaining what I just wrote, and they said to look at the numbers on the pots. I took the cover off but the only number on the pots that I could see was what I think is a part number, 70028. Is there anyway other way to tell exactly when this guitar was built? Thanks, Don
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gibson les paul deluxe pro from 1979 ...
Its listed at $1700 to $2000 according to 2 price guides ... They are a little less valuable due to their short history ,,, more or less the same quality . the pro deluxe guitars had 2 p90 pickups and were fitted with chrome plated hardware , they also have " PRO " engraved in the truss rod .
Posted By : Noel
Posted By : Ken
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Hi,
I have a 71 LP Gold Top which has been modified to replace the mini humbuckers. I want to re-install the mini humbuckers but also need the additonal pickup ring that was put on these guitars. Any idea where i can get the mini humbucker, its pickup ring and the additional ring that was installed on some early 70s LPs
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Howdy,
I am looking for a 1975 LP Deluxe. That was my birth year and I would like an LP from that time. I was curious what the availablity is on these guitars. Meaning, can I afford to look around, or do I need to jump on one the minute I find it. I want it to be Wine Red, all original, and in reasonably good cosmetic condition. As for the pickups...I don't really care.
Thanks for any insight you might have regarding the availability of these.
Posted By : sache
hi,
i've found a left handed les paul deluxe from 76, all original, very good condition - they're asking $3500 and I can't talk them down from that... this seems a lot higher than the guide price - is this because of a premium for left handed, or is this a bad deal and i should keep looking?
any thoughts on this this really appreciated, thanks
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Can anyone help me? I have a 1969 Goldtop Deluxe, no made in usa, no volute, etc. In the cavity where the volume and tone pots are, a B in a circle is stamped on the underside of the Gold top. What does this mean?? I have seen it on other Les Pauls but don't understand it's significance.
Thanks, Tony
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i have a les paul deluxe, mini humbuckers, black with cream trim, no volute on neck, original grover chrome tuners, serial number stamped on back of headstock # 886680 and no 'made in usa' stamp. vintage guitars info website shows this serial number as 1967, guitar dater project website dates it as 1968 kalamazo. gibson says the deluxe model debuted in 1969, and black ones aren't listed until 70's. the pots have so much surface corrosion it's not possible to make out any numbers. the capacitors are cylinderical black with red numbers and are huge. any ideas on the nature of this one?
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Hi there,- Copenhagen, Denmark.
I have a nice LP deluxe cherry sunburst and I have a few questions about it. The serial is 206112, but what year is that ? (pancake body)Further more it has pickuprings/cheater rings, but are they original. Some guy told me on the web that some deluxe models where factory fitted with those rings around the mini humbuckers. It that true ??
They look though very genuine.
Hope soneone can help.
Posted By : pjdragon5150
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I bought a Les Paul Cherry Sunburst Deluxe in the very early 70s second hand. Serial 620044 Made in USA on the headstock, it has the smaller pickups and cream coloured flat plastic pickup surrounds as well. Never seen any other like since. I was told it was a '69 when they first tried out the smaller pickups. Any help on dating it?
Posted By : Leon
Hi - I think I have an early 69 with a lot of '68 in it which makes me believe it was some sort of experimental or transitional guitar made in Jan or Feb of 69. The frets are wide, it's sunburst in color and serial number points to ‘69
68 characteristics:
6-digit serial number starting with 533XXX with NO “Made in USA” stamped on the back of the neck
One-piece mahogany neck with NO vulute
No “Volume” or “Tone” printed on the knobs
“Les Paul Model printed on a fairly narrow headstock
Pronounced dot on “i” in “Gibson”
No “pancake” body – solid mahogany right up to the maple top
Binding covers all of maple in cutaway – no maple stained with mahogany finish
Sprague “Black Beauty” capacitors
Can anyone help me?
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Hi, I have the opportunity to purchase a Les Paul Deluxe Gold Top 1971 (I guess) .
The serial number is 957495. Everything on it is stock except the tuners & the bridge. There’s a lot of small cracks on the finish. Not on the wood but only the paint (on the top, the back & the neck of the guitar, almost everywhere). The neck is big & straight.
Are you able to confirm to me the exact year, the approximative value of that guitar ( I probably can buy it for 2500$ Canadian).
Also, could you tell me what would be the value of that guitar if everything was original on it.
I can find tuners & bridge on Ebay for this guitar (it’s wrote early 70s). If I buy it, can I say that guitar would become original?
My last question is: Is there a serial number on tuners & bridge to be sure that is the same year of the guitar?
Thank you very much for your help…
*** Excuse my bad english....
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I have a 1973 I believe Les Paul. It has a Deluxe truss rod cover, but am wondering if it's been changed. It has serial #891839 stamped on the headstock with Made in U.S.A. stamped below it on 2 lines. However it has two large Humbuckers in it. I got it in 73,maybe 74, second hand with no info. I can't imagine someone buying a new L.P. and immediatly routing the P.U. holes to install larger ones. It Has a Blond finish. Can anyone tell me if this is actually a Deluxe or not. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks in advance
Posted By : bill
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Hi all - A little help would be most appreciated from anyone.
I've been looking for a 70's Les Paul Standard (can't afford a 50's or 60's but figure these are close in sound and somewhat affordable) but found one that is a '75 Deluxe with 3 piece neck, sandwich body, says Standard on the truss rod cover, and has full sized humbuckers.
A few questions:
Is this essentially the same as a Standard, or what is the difference? i have heard the Deluxes have a routed body?? What is that?
Is the 3 piece neck as good compared to a one piece?
What is a sandwich or pancake body? Same value, same sound, etc? Are they also lighter (a good thing I suppose?)
It looks in fair shape, original case, not played in 20 years, buckle rash, but otherwise OK. Ballpark fair price?? Serial number 99218903. Thank you! - bob
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I own a 1969 Les Paul Deluxe, serial number 891565, no volute and no "made in USA" stamp under the serial number. When you take off the back plate to view the underside of the pots, the is a letter B enclosed in a circle, both in red, stamped into the wood. Does anyone know what this stands for? Before I bought this guitar, I was looking at an ad on E-bay and there was a similar guitar with the same marking and in the description it said, "it has a B stamped into the underside of the Gold Top and we all know what that means". Well I don't and if anyone could explain it, I'd be really grateful.
Thanks
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My les paul deluxe has the serial # 0013123. I'm guessing that it's a 1976? made in kalamazoo? I bought it used in 1979 but had no details on it's origin at that time. I was a youngster of 14 and have played it ever since. Did have some fretwork done about 15 years ago but that's all. just filing to even them out. Still going stong and sounding better than ever, though the finish is gone in two places on the back and the bare wood shows through.
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Hi, does anyone know anything about a LP Deluxe goldtop '78 where the gold finish looks original however there does not appear to be a clear finish ... i have been told its an original finish however i dont understand why there is no clear finish ... hence the surface of the finish is not smooth .. it is a little rough .. could it be origibal or not?
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Hi!
I appreciate this forum, and I learned a lot reading through it.
I have a Deluxe from 1970-72. Does anyone know how to distinguish between those? It has serial #730307. Made in USA carved in under the number at the back of the neck. It is cherry sunburst.
This guitar has two full-sized humbuckers. Is it possible that it left the factory like that in the very early 70's? It says Deluxe on the truss cover...
Thank you very, very much for all answers!!
Thomas
Posted By : Doug
I have enjoyed reading all these posts. I have a nice sunburst LP Deluxe and I believe it is a 1971, mainly because of the fellow I bought it from said it was a 71 & he bought it in 1971 and that was the best info I had to go on.
The serial number is 735320 & it has the smaller pickups with "Gibson" embossed on them & although I've never seen another LP with the embossed pu's, I understand that it was not all that rare, not sure.
I opened up the back cover to look at the pots & discovered I have some cleaning to do, the pot backs are covered in a thin layer of light greyish pasty grunge, but there appears to be a 6 or 7 digit number on one pot & the other one I can see starts with 70.
I have used this guitar for decades with Schaller tuning heads on it, but recently, I returned it to the original Gibson heads for that classic look.
This guitar is my favorite of the 24 I have at the moment, but reality & the value of them makes me think about selling... I doubt I would be so hasty though because I know it would be gone & I'd probably never get another one.
Time to clean it up top to bottom & inside out, then play it for a few more decades.
Posted By : Smash
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Hi, I'm wondering what the value is of a 1970 Les Paul Delux that I acquired a few years ago.
I bought a 1970 les paul delux on ebay, had it kicking around unplayed for abit then decided to have it set up - holy crap - this thing is amazing!!!
The beast got hit with a few severe mods during its pre-me life, including a kalher and two dimarzios complete with two toggle switches that go from single to double coil (I have not opened her up to see if any routing has taken place to accomodate the pick-up changes - other than two holes added to accomodate the extra two pick-up toggles and the Kahler) As well the tuning pegs have been changed to Shalers. A locking nut has been added, and a refret has been performed...ha ha..lots of work indeed - but I love the sound and feel of all these mods...now again for my question - what price range could this puppy be worth?
She is a cherry sunburst
Cheers
Stephen
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I have a Les Paul Gold Top. the tuners say Gibson Deluxe. The only number I could find is on the back of the head at the top and the number reads exactly as follows
7 5048. It is not worn off as this guitar is in perfect condition. There is no other information any where on the Guitar.
Could you give me some information about where and when it might have been made?
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I think I just found the info on the site given. So as I can understand it it is a reissue of a 1957 Les Paul and it was made in 1995, and the 48th made that year.
In 1992, the serialization of reissues became standard. The configuration
of M YNNN is still in use by Gibson. The M indicates the model code,
specifically the last digit of the year of the reissue. The Y indicates the last
number of the year of the guitar, and the NNN are the production numbers.
For example, 4 8256 indicates a 1954 Les Paul reissue built in 1998
and is the 256th instrument of the year. The following codes represent
most of the reissues:
NUMBER MODELS
2 1952 LES PAUL
4 1954 LES PAUL
6 1956 LES PAUL
NUMBER MODELS
7 1957 LES PAUL
8 1958 LES PAUL, EXPLORER
9 1959 LES PAUL, FLYING V
0 1960 LES PAUL
Posted By : Joe
Hey all,
I'm looking at picking up a particular '83 Les Paul Deluxe gold top. I've been researching in order to find out if there are any reasons that I should or should not buy such a later year in the line. Does anybody have any information one way or the other? It appears to be in fine shape.
Thanks,
Joe
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According to the goinstrument.com site, which Gibson refers you to, thi onse could be a 1967, although they say it could be anywhere from 61 to 69, since the numbers were repeated suring those years.
This would assume that it is stamped into the wood & that there is no "Made In USA" with it.
Go check this site & plug in your sn:
http://www.goinstrument.com/Guitar/Electric/Gibson.aspx
Cheers.
Posted By : Stephen
Posted By : DeathofanAngelic
I've got a '77 Deluxe that has 8 digits in the S/N so to the guy with the 75, I'd say it's absolute bull. Maybe a reissue or just a counterfeit?
I just finished putting all original equipment back into it (matching 76 minis, original tuning machines, original truss rod cover, original pick guard, etc...) but I'm concerned that the bridge and tailpiece might not be original because the tail piece has no name molded into the underside and the tune-o-matic bridge says "made in germany" really small on the bottom!
Did Gibson USA exist in the 70's? Did they outsource work like part molding, or should I look into finding what appears to be a more likely authentic bridge that has "GIBSON ABR-1" molded into the underside? Very urgent!
Posted By : DeathofanAngelic
Posted By : gill
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I have a cherry red sunburst Les Paul DLX. I bought it when I was a kid (am 53 now) for $375 (that was a lot for a kid back then of course). The manual that came with it said the guy I bought it off of, paid for it on 12/17/71. So it has to be at least a 1971 model. And as the manual mentions Kalamazo, it must have been built in that factory.
The S/N# is 612532 and has Made In USA on it too. Any idea if this is a 71, or maybe a 70? And where could I get an HONEST evaluation on it? I once tried to at a Guitar Center, but the guy was extremely RUDE to me, and tried to tell me it was only worth $1000! JERK!!!
Sadly, as I have been laid off from work (and am over 50 so it will be hard to find a job), I may have to be selling this someday :(
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I have a question about mini-humbuckers. I have seen only a few early '70s LP Deluxe guitars with Gibson imprinted into the top of the chrome pickup cover. There is one such 1971 example on eBay now.
Are these after market covers? Did Gibson ever make the mini humbucker covers with the Gibson logo imprinted as standard on the stock LP Deluxe?
Just have so rarely seen this that I am wondering if this eBay guitar is truly 100% original.
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Hi, I have a LP Deluxe with a SN that lines up with 1969. Also, no volute or Made in USA stamp. I have seen many similar guitars on ebay except mine has no Les Paul decal on the headstock, but the truss rod cover has in small letters "Les Paul" and a second line that says "Deluxe." All of the other guitars that I have seen only have "Deluxe" in large letters on the truss rod cover. Is mine more of a rarity? Has anyone else seen the two lines of text on the truss rod cover?
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Hey, lots of people are asking what year their Gibson is. Go to http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Support/SerialNumberSearch
Also, Google something like "Gibson serial numbers" and you will get some interactive web sites that you can just punch the SN into and get information. Hope this helps.
Anyone ever see "Les Paul" and "Deluxe" in small print on the truss rod cover? All the LPDs that I have seen have "Deluxe" as the only word on the truss rod cover. Mine has the two lines of smaller print. Maybe it's a rare prototype from 1969 worth 2 million dollars! Someday you will see it in the Gibson museum...
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Hi,
I have a 1980 LP Pro, Goldtop. The serial # is 80370800 and it is impressed in the head stock. also it says SECOND under the serial #. Im looking into selling it, but i have no idea what it might be worth. There are holes at the bottom as if there were a bigsby there at one time and the pick guard has been taken off. it has P90 soapbox pick-ups. Any ideas what i might be able to sell it for??
Thanks
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Hello,
I presently own a Gibson Les Paul Pro-Deluxe that has me with some questions. The serial number is the decal 1975-77 model, 2 digit prefix followed by 6 digits. Mine begins with a 99 12XXXX, which puts this one at 1975. There is a 2 stamped on this one to indicate it was a 2nd from the Gibson plant for what ever reasons.
I have seen that the Pro-Deluxe did not come out until 1978. Yet-Mine has the Pancake body, 3 piece neck, P-90 Soapbars, Ebony board, Schaller M-6 tuners and "Pro" truss cover just like every Les Paul Pro-Deluxe I have ever seen.
Yet again, serial number indicates 1975. Do I have a 1975 or 1978??? I'm really confused on this one-ANY answer, leads or suggestions would be very appreciated.
Thanks, KLR
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This is for reference and to clarify some info in this post. Gibson serials numbers in the early 70's were a bit random. Although '71 used 6XXXXX serials, so did 1975. Best to check your pots to get a possibly more accurate feel. Usually 137YYWW, using the YY as year (WW week).
For reference, my Gold Top Deluxe is serial 660XXX, Made In USA, and the pots date to 1974. Good luck all, and maybe some of you do some better research rather than go "help, tell me when my guitar was made and what is it worth...?" etc etc...
Posted By : 54lespaul
Does anyone have advice on how ot determine the value of a 1954 les paul gold top in an anvil case> The guitar was actually used in recording a number one song and a couple top ten songs on a number one album back in the 70's. Everything is original except the tuning heads which were replaced back in the 70's.
I'd also appreciate advice on the best forum to use to sell it.
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Posted By : Mike
I am looking at a sunburst LP standard with full humbuckers, serial no 727289 with no made in usa. The pots are gibson enbossed, I did not see the date code. Possibly refinished, the serial number is present but hard to read, about 1/4" tall numbers. Any idea what year, and if the full size humbuckers are correct?
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Hey I'm pretty sure this is a very early 69 deluxe gold top, but just to make sure, here's the info:
Serial # 814694
Truss rod cover says "les paul deluxe"
NO made in USA stamp or volute
Tuners are double band, double ridge style, and say "Kluston Deluxe" on back in two vertical rows.
Gibson logo on head has open "b" and "o", and the dot missing over the "i"
Thanks for the feedback
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Hello,
Can someone verify? I have a 1971 or 1972 LEs Paul Deluxe, with Gibson stamped on the pickup covers. I have heard that this was only done in 1972. The serial number is 682404, which puts this in the 1970,71,72. I am the original owner and I bought it in '72, but wanted to confirm the year the pickup was stamped with "Gibson" . Please e-mail me at dalehob555@comcast.net
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Looking for any info on a 74 Goldtop, at least thats what the pots are. Mini Humbuckers seem correct.
It is the pancake body but with a 3 piece neck with NO VOLUTE.
The head to neck transition is smooth with no sharp corners or edge lines.
The "Gibson" has a doted I.on the headstock.
It had gold tuners and bridge pieces, now in a sock in the case.
Noe has a more adjustable bridge but no lives were lost in the conversion.
The numbers are stamped in the back of the head 109XXX no USA anything.
Everything seems consistent with a 74 except the gold hardware and the neck.
Had an appraisal and they thought the neck had been replaced at the factory.
Was it a limited model?
Was the neck replaced?
Could it have been ordered that way?
Any info would be appreciated.
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SO I have a Deluxe here, serial stamped 181775, without the 'made in USA', I looked it up on a site but this would mean it was made in 1964 which can't be right. There's also a volute (I think, no-one's ever clear as to what it actually is but there's a lump of wood on the back of the neck opposite the nut so I suppose that's what it is).
Any help? :o
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Hi i'm thinking about buying a black late 69 left hand les paul custom. This is a late 1969 model.
Serial number is 898375
3 piece neck with small volute and no 'MADE IN USA' stamp.
Pancake body.
Late 1969 pots.
Stamped factory 2nd on the back of the headstock. Stamped factory 2nd worries me, should I be worried?
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Hi i'm thinking about buying a black late 69 left hand les paul custom. This is a late 1969 model.
Serial number is 898375
3 piece neck with small volute and no 'MADE IN USA' stamp.
Pancake body.
Late 1969 pots.
Stamped factory 2nd on the back of the headstock. Stamped factory 2nd worries me, should I be worried?
Posted By : Pat Jennings
Hi,
I have a Gibson Les Paul guitar that i tried to sell and started getting too many questions regarding it originality. The serial number on this guitar is 92761482. From Gibson this is a Les Paul Deluxe in bullion gold, with chrome hardware from 1991 through Rosetti. It is a Hall of Fame edition and should look like original version of the Deluxe model from 1969 with mini humbuckers.
From the feedback from Gibson my guitar looks to be original. I'd like to know if anyone has any links to the guitar that it has been designed to look like. Also, the truss rod cover says "Standard" not Deluxe and how can I confirm if the pickups are mini Humbuckers?
I can provide photos if you request.
Thanks,
Pat.
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I believe I have a 1976 Goldtop LesPaul with standard humbuckers, but can't confirm the year. SN 00136xxx. Odd thing is, it has large double humbuckers and says Standard on the trussrod cover, but Deluxe and made in the USA on the peghead decal. I'm the original owner and made no mods on it. Can anyone tell me anything about the history? It's got a two piece layered body. Thanks Mike
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Pat-
I have one of these Deluxe "Hall of Fame" Edition Guitars as well I Bought it at Mannys Guitar Shop In NYC in 1991 New. In Sept of 1992 i had the chance to meet Les Paul and have him sign the guitar. He was Unaware at the time they were making this run of 400 all GOLD 69 Reissue Deluxe LPs. I have found some docs. on line that account for this ltd. run. It is Real.
Best,
Matt
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I have just inherited a Gibson ES-150D in the original case. I cannot read the serial number due to minor damage to that area. I took it to a local "expert" who told me it was made in 1972 due to the pickups. They have GIBSON embossed on the top. I mean the metal was acctualy cast that way! He says that is the only year they did this. Can anyone confirm this info? Also, from my research I have seen that the the cases from the 70's were red inside, mine is in yellow which indicates an earlier year. The sticker inside is rectangle in blue and white (Kalamazoo MI, Union Made, etc). The unit is in perfect condition other than the serial number damage. Another guy said the crown on the front indicates it is a 50's model. And of course I am wondering what it may be worth. Any help would be much appriciated.
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Hi,
I bought a Les Paul used years ago in 1971, I believe it to be a 1969 Gold Top. The interesting thing about the guitar is it has a one piece walnut finished body (non pancake), small head stock and a kind of chubby neck. It also has large humbucking pickups which are original. I've never seen another like mine. The i in Gibson is dotted and the o is open. The head just says Les Paul model in gold. Does anybody know anything about this model? I'd appreciate and input. Peace Al



Hi,
does anybody know if all '76 Delux do have their serial number on a decal like this:
LES PAUL-DELUXE
MADE IN USA
00xxxxxx
I got an offer for one with a stamped serial like this:
MADE IN USA
00120409
Could this be a fake?
Thanks
Joe